1 00:00:14,450 --> 00:00:11,089 hello and welcome to episode number 78 2 00:00:19,070 --> 00:00:14,460 of the point of convergence podcast as 3 00:00:21,769 --> 00:00:19,080 always I am your host EXO academian 4 00:00:23,570 --> 00:00:21,779 while the modern UFO era may have begun 5 00:00:26,330 --> 00:00:23,580 with the emergence of saucer sightings 6 00:00:28,189 --> 00:00:26,340 in the early to mid 20th century that 7 00:00:30,650 --> 00:00:28,199 picture eventually grew to include not 8 00:00:32,749 --> 00:00:30,660 only those initial sightings but also 9 00:00:35,709 --> 00:00:32,759 reported interactions with the supposed 10 00:00:39,350 --> 00:00:35,719 beings piloting these sophisticated 11 00:00:41,389 --> 00:00:39,360 non-conventional craft yes indeed aliens 12 00:00:44,590 --> 00:00:41,399 or as they're often called in modern 13 00:00:46,850 --> 00:00:44,600 ufology circles non-human intelligences 14 00:00:48,830 --> 00:00:46,860 often to clarify that we don't actually 15 00:00:50,990 --> 00:00:48,840 know where they're from just that 16 00:00:53,810 --> 00:00:51,000 they're not human at least we're pretty 17 00:00:56,810 --> 00:00:53,820 sure of that fact if by human we mean 18 00:00:59,389 --> 00:00:56,820 beings akin to contemporary Homo sapiens 19 00:01:01,490 --> 00:00:59,399 sapiens of course as we'll see in 20 00:01:04,310 --> 00:01:01,500 today's episode that clear-cut 21 00:01:06,469 --> 00:01:04,320 distinction between us and Them might 22 00:01:09,109 --> 00:01:06,479 not be so easy to delineate after all 23 00:01:11,450 --> 00:01:09,119 but we'll get to that 24 00:01:14,030 --> 00:01:11,460 from sightings of supposed alien beings 25 00:01:16,789 --> 00:01:14,040 or apparently non-human but very often 26 00:01:19,429 --> 00:01:16,799 humanoid beings the picture filled out 27 00:01:22,249 --> 00:01:19,439 even more to include the now Infamous 28 00:01:25,429 --> 00:01:22,259 abduction phenomenon where Modern Earth 29 00:01:27,289 --> 00:01:25,439 humans are taken aboard craft often from 30 00:01:29,390 --> 00:01:27,299 the comfort and quiet of their bedrooms 31 00:01:31,310 --> 00:01:29,400 in the middle of the night but they are 32 00:01:34,609 --> 00:01:31,320 then subjected to a wide variety of 33 00:01:37,090 --> 00:01:34,619 experiences including in some cases of a 34 00:01:39,550 --> 00:01:37,100 perhaps less apparently positive nature 35 00:01:42,530 --> 00:01:39,560 invasive medical procedures and supposed 36 00:01:44,109 --> 00:01:42,540 hybridization programs and in more 37 00:01:46,730 --> 00:01:44,119 apparently positive reports 38 00:01:49,310 --> 00:01:46,740 opportunities to see the cause most and 39 00:01:51,950 --> 00:01:49,320 even on occasion to learn to maneuver 40 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:51,960 the craft often via mental intention 41 00:01:57,350 --> 00:01:54,479 alone no less 42 00:01:59,149 --> 00:01:57,360 in terms of the beings often seen while 43 00:02:01,609 --> 00:01:59,159 there really is a broad spectrum of 44 00:02:04,310 --> 00:02:01,619 others one particular form has come to 45 00:02:06,050 --> 00:02:04,320 represent the quintessential alien in 46 00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:06,060 our cultural zeitgeist 47 00:02:10,910 --> 00:02:08,160 here I speak of the proverbial gray 48 00:02:14,150 --> 00:02:10,920 alien the emergence of this particular 49 00:02:15,949 --> 00:02:14,160 form had much to do one could argue with 50 00:02:18,250 --> 00:02:15,959 the front cover of Whitley strieber's 51 00:02:22,010 --> 00:02:18,260 groundbreaking and nerve-rattling book 52 00:02:24,050 --> 00:02:22,020 communion published in 1987. 53 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:24,060 of course that image wouldn't have made 54 00:02:28,330 --> 00:02:26,400 the waves it did if it were not for the 55 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:28,340 fact that many thousands of people 56 00:02:35,030 --> 00:02:31,140 reportedly recognized that prototypical 57 00:02:38,210 --> 00:02:35,040 face sometimes much to their Chagrin 58 00:02:41,150 --> 00:02:38,220 after all if they recognized the image 59 00:02:44,089 --> 00:02:41,160 it was somehow familiar to them even if 60 00:02:47,150 --> 00:02:44,099 Mercury so did this mean they too were 61 00:02:49,009 --> 00:02:47,160 perhaps alien abductees these were 62 00:02:51,710 --> 00:02:49,019 chilling questions for a plethora of 63 00:02:53,570 --> 00:02:51,720 human beings to contemplate 64 00:02:56,089 --> 00:02:53,580 of course the fact that these beings 65 00:02:58,809 --> 00:02:56,099 were if not exactly human looking then 66 00:03:01,550 --> 00:02:58,819 certainly humanoid raised many questions 67 00:03:03,770 --> 00:03:01,560 why would an alien being look so much 68 00:03:05,809 --> 00:03:03,780 like us wouldn't The evolutionary 69 00:03:07,630 --> 00:03:05,819 trajectory of their own planet have 70 00:03:09,890 --> 00:03:07,640 taken them in very different directions 71 00:03:11,690 --> 00:03:09,900 the conventional thinking of these 72 00:03:14,149 --> 00:03:11,700 matters assume this would be the case 73 00:03:16,970 --> 00:03:14,159 and it's partly this that led to so much 74 00:03:18,890 --> 00:03:16,980 ridicule and scoff many took these 75 00:03:21,589 --> 00:03:18,900 humanoid forms as a good reason to 76 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:21,599 ignore the entire Affair altogether 77 00:03:26,270 --> 00:03:23,700 it's as if these people decided that 78 00:03:28,490 --> 00:03:26,280 since aliens wouldn't look like this the 79 00:03:31,009 --> 00:03:28,500 entire Affair must be reducible to make 80 00:03:33,350 --> 00:03:31,019 believe or delusion 81 00:03:36,410 --> 00:03:33,360 and yet the Enigma of this particular 82 00:03:38,149 --> 00:03:36,420 form of otherness has endured to the 83 00:03:40,369 --> 00:03:38,159 point where it's now a Mainstay in our 84 00:03:42,530 --> 00:03:40,379 cultural heritage both for those who 85 00:03:44,690 --> 00:03:42,540 believe and don't believe aliens are 86 00:03:47,509 --> 00:03:44,700 here and are actually interacting with 87 00:03:49,610 --> 00:03:47,519 human beings on an ongoing basis 88 00:03:51,710 --> 00:03:49,620 of course another possibility that's 89 00:03:53,330 --> 00:03:51,720 emerged more recently and this would 90 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:53,340 explain why these others look so much 91 00:03:58,850 --> 00:03:55,920 like us is that they actually may be us 92 00:04:01,430 --> 00:03:58,860 but us from the future our descendants 93 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:01,440 who have been taken in some strange 94 00:04:05,149 --> 00:04:03,840 evolutionary directions based on future 95 00:04:07,970 --> 00:04:05,159 events 96 00:04:10,390 --> 00:04:07,980 so what is it are Grays from an extra 97 00:04:12,649 --> 00:04:10,400 planetary Source I.E are they 98 00:04:15,050 --> 00:04:12,659 extraterrestrials or are they future 99 00:04:18,349 --> 00:04:15,060 humans what Michael Masters has aptly 100 00:04:21,050 --> 00:04:18,359 deemed extra-term pestrials or is it 101 00:04:23,090 --> 00:04:21,060 perhaps that both options exist and 102 00:04:25,010 --> 00:04:23,100 furthermore could the prevalence of this 103 00:04:28,070 --> 00:04:25,020 form and its evident ongoing connection 104 00:04:30,530 --> 00:04:28,080 to us Point towards an even deeper and 105 00:04:32,990 --> 00:04:30,540 more primary construct that might not 106 00:04:35,810 --> 00:04:33,000 only speak to Common Origins but perhaps 107 00:04:37,790 --> 00:04:35,820 also to a common Terminus maybe in the 108 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:37,800 form of the singularity that rushes to 109 00:04:43,070 --> 00:04:40,320 meet us at the end of time 110 00:04:46,129 --> 00:04:43,080 these are the perplexing yet fascinating 111 00:04:48,830 --> 00:04:46,139 ideas we'll Endeavor to explore in this 112 00:04:52,050 --> 00:04:48,840 the 78th episode of the point of 113 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:55,249 [Music] 114 00:05:00,890 --> 00:04:57,840 I call this episode The quintessential 115 00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:00,900 other because this form the gray alien 116 00:05:06,230 --> 00:05:03,840 form really has taken on an iconic role 117 00:05:08,570 --> 00:05:06,240 in our contemporary culture almost 118 00:05:10,490 --> 00:05:08,580 everyone in the west is familiar with 119 00:05:14,150 --> 00:05:10,500 the typical features of this humanoid 120 00:05:17,150 --> 00:05:14,160 but so-called alien form you can see it 121 00:05:19,850 --> 00:05:17,160 on bumper stickers on cars regularly you 122 00:05:23,330 --> 00:05:19,860 can get t-shirts mugs like this 123 00:05:25,310 --> 00:05:23,340 simply put the gray alien form is part 124 00:05:27,710 --> 00:05:25,320 of pop culture 125 00:05:31,490 --> 00:05:27,720 this is what Wikipedia says of the gray 126 00:05:34,670 --> 00:05:31,500 alien quote gray aliens also referred to 127 00:05:37,610 --> 00:05:34,680 as Zeta reticulins Roswell Graves or 128 00:05:40,370 --> 00:05:37,620 Graves as in spelled a y instead of e y 129 00:05:42,469 --> 00:05:40,380 are purported extraterrestrial beings 130 00:05:44,689 --> 00:05:42,479 they are frequent subjects of Close 131 00:05:47,390 --> 00:05:44,699 Encounters and alien abduction claims 132 00:05:49,730 --> 00:05:47,400 the details of such claims vary widely 133 00:05:52,550 --> 00:05:49,740 but typically Grays are described as 134 00:05:55,310 --> 00:05:52,560 being human-like with small bodies with 135 00:05:59,150 --> 00:05:55,320 smooth Gray colored skin enlarged 136 00:06:01,070 --> 00:05:59,160 hairless heads and large black eyes the 137 00:06:02,870 --> 00:06:01,080 Barney and Betty Hill abduction claim 138 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:02,880 which purportedly took place in New 139 00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:06,479 Hampshire in 1961 popularized gray 140 00:06:11,330 --> 00:06:09,120 aliens precursor figures have been 141 00:06:13,070 --> 00:06:11,340 described in science fiction and similar 142 00:06:16,730 --> 00:06:13,080 descriptions appeared in early accounts 143 00:06:19,790 --> 00:06:16,740 of the 1948 Aztec UFO hoax and later 144 00:06:22,610 --> 00:06:19,800 accounts of the 1947 Roswell UFO 145 00:06:24,710 --> 00:06:22,620 incident the gray alien has emerged as 146 00:06:27,409 --> 00:06:24,720 an archetypal image of an intelligent 147 00:06:30,230 --> 00:06:27,419 non-human creature and extraterrestrial 148 00:06:32,930 --> 00:06:30,240 life in general as well as an iconic 149 00:06:35,689 --> 00:06:32,940 Trope of popular culture in the age of 150 00:06:38,570 --> 00:06:35,699 space exploration unquote 151 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:38,580 indeed because this form this figure the 152 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:41,520 gray alien figure is so common in pop 153 00:06:45,890 --> 00:06:43,680 culture it may be hard for some people 154 00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:45,900 to take it seriously because it's been 155 00:06:50,930 --> 00:06:48,479 mocked and ridiculed for so long almost 156 00:06:52,670 --> 00:06:50,940 like a comedic Trope it's going to be 157 00:06:54,350 --> 00:06:52,680 hard for some people to recognize that 158 00:06:56,629 --> 00:06:54,360 these beings are real and actually 159 00:06:58,129 --> 00:06:56,639 interacting with people he had all the 160 00:07:00,409 --> 00:06:58,139 evidence in the world suggests that's 161 00:07:01,430 --> 00:07:00,419 exactly what's going on and has been 162 00:07:03,170 --> 00:07:01,440 going on 163 00:07:04,909 --> 00:07:03,180 though even in that description in 164 00:07:07,010 --> 00:07:04,919 Wikipedia you'll notice they brought up 165 00:07:08,749 --> 00:07:07,020 Betty and Barney Hill and there have 166 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:08,759 been some people who suggested they may 167 00:07:14,629 --> 00:07:12,240 have seen some images of Science Fiction 168 00:07:16,490 --> 00:07:14,639 aliens beforehand and then use that kind 169 00:07:18,710 --> 00:07:16,500 of description to describe what they saw 170 00:07:21,110 --> 00:07:18,720 or maybe didn't see for those who are 171 00:07:22,909 --> 00:07:21,120 really skeptical and eventually this 172 00:07:25,790 --> 00:07:22,919 took hold and became part of our 173 00:07:28,730 --> 00:07:25,800 cultural fabric if you will 174 00:07:31,249 --> 00:07:28,740 I think this is far too cynical far too 175 00:07:32,749 --> 00:07:31,259 skeptical these beings are real and 176 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:32,759 people have been interacting with them 177 00:07:38,089 --> 00:07:35,280 for decades and decades if not for 178 00:07:39,950 --> 00:07:38,099 centuries or longer and again the fact 179 00:07:42,890 --> 00:07:39,960 that they can control our Consciousness 180 00:07:45,050 --> 00:07:42,900 control our perception largely makes it 181 00:07:47,330 --> 00:07:45,060 possible for them to carry on this sort 182 00:07:49,370 --> 00:07:47,340 of double agent scheme where on the one 183 00:07:51,589 --> 00:07:49,380 hand they're well known within our 184 00:07:53,450 --> 00:07:51,599 popular culture and yet many many people 185 00:07:55,189 --> 00:07:53,460 assume it's not really happening they're 186 00:07:57,370 --> 00:07:55,199 not really real they're not really 187 00:08:00,110 --> 00:07:57,380 abducting people and yet that happens 188 00:08:01,790 --> 00:08:00,120 but again we have to toggle back and 189 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:01,800 forth between the ones that are 190 00:08:05,330 --> 00:08:03,660 perceived positively and those that are 191 00:08:07,189 --> 00:08:05,340 perceived negatively as well as 192 00:08:09,589 --> 00:08:07,199 somewhere in between because you really 193 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:09,599 do get the full range here 194 00:08:15,650 --> 00:08:12,240 for some this form the gray alien form 195 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:15,660 strikes fear into hearts for others it 196 00:08:20,510 --> 00:08:17,759 is a warm familiar feeling of being 197 00:08:22,670 --> 00:08:20,520 reminded of a friend or even family 198 00:08:25,010 --> 00:08:22,680 we've discussed before people like Susie 199 00:08:27,350 --> 00:08:25,020 Hansen who actually consider themselves 200 00:08:30,110 --> 00:08:27,360 part gray in her dual Soul connection 201 00:08:32,630 --> 00:08:30,120 book she mentions how basically when 202 00:08:34,850 --> 00:08:32,640 she's with them she has a gray identity 203 00:08:37,250 --> 00:08:34,860 that comes online and a human identity 204 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:37,260 when she's in the everyday world that we 205 00:08:39,529 --> 00:08:38,159 live in 206 00:08:41,690 --> 00:08:39,539 we're going to learn about someone else 207 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:41,700 today who also has a similar kind of 208 00:08:46,130 --> 00:08:43,919 account and again it goes back decades 209 00:08:48,350 --> 00:08:46,140 and again just like Susie Hansen it 210 00:08:50,210 --> 00:08:48,360 began with fear but later became more 211 00:08:54,110 --> 00:08:50,220 like a relationship and a very close 212 00:08:56,449 --> 00:08:54,120 relationship where trust was Central 213 00:08:58,250 --> 00:08:56,459 now in the introduction I mentioned the 214 00:08:59,930 --> 00:08:58,260 communion cover Whitley strieber's 215 00:09:02,570 --> 00:08:59,940 famous book probably his most famous 216 00:09:04,730 --> 00:09:02,580 book his first book about alien 217 00:09:07,670 --> 00:09:04,740 abduction abductions that were happening 218 00:09:09,949 --> 00:09:07,680 to him and this was before this was part 219 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:09,959 of our cultural fabric of course this 220 00:09:16,009 --> 00:09:11,760 really was a groundbreaking book because 221 00:09:19,190 --> 00:09:16,019 it made it part of our cultural heritage 222 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:19,200 now gray aliens are humanoid like I said 223 00:09:23,150 --> 00:09:21,120 in the introduction and that alone is 224 00:09:26,329 --> 00:09:23,160 somewhat surprising based on 225 00:09:28,009 --> 00:09:26,339 evolutionary expectations we really need 226 00:09:29,570 --> 00:09:28,019 to highlight this here because those of 227 00:09:32,570 --> 00:09:29,580 us who are intimately familiar with this 228 00:09:35,150 --> 00:09:32,580 topic by now are so familiar with these 229 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:35,160 humanoid looking figures whether they're 230 00:09:40,850 --> 00:09:38,640 gray aliens or nordics or the tall 231 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:40,860 whites or what have you we see these 232 00:09:45,710 --> 00:09:43,680 beings that are regularly humanoid even 233 00:09:48,290 --> 00:09:45,720 the reptilians are kind of a cross 234 00:09:50,990 --> 00:09:48,300 between a lizard or a reptile and a 235 00:09:52,370 --> 00:09:51,000 human being still very humanoid so what 236 00:09:54,050 --> 00:09:52,380 is the deal with that that's not really 237 00:09:56,829 --> 00:09:54,060 what you would expect that's not what we 238 00:09:59,870 --> 00:09:56,839 were taught in Biology class growing up 239 00:10:01,850 --> 00:09:59,880 we were taught the expectation that a 240 00:10:03,590 --> 00:10:01,860 different planet would produce very 241 00:10:04,670 --> 00:10:03,600 different looking life because they 242 00:10:06,949 --> 00:10:04,680 would likely have very different 243 00:10:08,509 --> 00:10:06,959 conditions on that planet and it's the 244 00:10:10,850 --> 00:10:08,519 conditions of the Planet of the 245 00:10:14,269 --> 00:10:10,860 environment that shape The evolutionary 246 00:10:15,889 --> 00:10:14,279 trajectory of the life there so why 247 00:10:18,470 --> 00:10:15,899 would they look so much like a status 248 00:10:21,110 --> 00:10:18,480 alone is a very very curious item 249 00:10:23,509 --> 00:10:21,120 perhaps one of the most curious 250 00:10:26,509 --> 00:10:23,519 and we'll look into in depth what that 251 00:10:28,970 --> 00:10:26,519 might mean in today's episode 252 00:10:31,370 --> 00:10:28,980 now as I said there are numerous groups 253 00:10:33,470 --> 00:10:31,380 of graves I don't think it's just that 254 00:10:35,329 --> 00:10:33,480 some people have positive accounts some 255 00:10:36,530 --> 00:10:35,339 people have negative accounts and you 256 00:10:38,509 --> 00:10:36,540 can really reduce that to their 257 00:10:40,730 --> 00:10:38,519 personality whether or not they're a 258 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:40,740 fearful person or not there are some 259 00:10:44,210 --> 00:10:42,720 people of the love and light crowd who 260 00:10:46,370 --> 00:10:44,220 want to believe that all alien 261 00:10:48,410 --> 00:10:46,380 encounters are positive and if they're 262 00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:48,420 reported as negative then it's just that 263 00:10:52,610 --> 00:10:50,880 people haven't got past their own fear 264 00:10:55,730 --> 00:10:52,620 they're projecting Their Fear basically 265 00:10:58,610 --> 00:10:55,740 on positive peaceful entities 266 00:11:01,490 --> 00:10:58,620 I think that as a disservice to people 267 00:11:03,710 --> 00:11:01,500 I think I've interacted with people who 268 00:11:05,630 --> 00:11:03,720 are telling the truth they're giving a 269 00:11:07,790 --> 00:11:05,640 very accurate account of course 270 00:11:11,030 --> 00:11:07,800 subjective interpretation is always part 271 00:11:13,310 --> 00:11:11,040 of the mix in any event a human being is 272 00:11:15,350 --> 00:11:13,320 involved in and yet I don't think we can 273 00:11:17,509 --> 00:11:15,360 deny the fact that across the board 274 00:11:20,690 --> 00:11:17,519 there are both positive and negative 275 00:11:23,810 --> 00:11:20,700 encounters Beyond just interpretation 276 00:11:26,150 --> 00:11:23,820 now yes some begin as shocking and later 277 00:11:28,970 --> 00:11:26,160 become spiritually transformative and 278 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:28,980 positive that's one kind but there are 279 00:11:33,230 --> 00:11:31,440 other kinds that involve invasive 280 00:11:35,630 --> 00:11:33,240 medical procedures and things like that 281 00:11:37,069 --> 00:11:35,640 that really stay in the negative 282 00:11:39,170 --> 00:11:37,079 category I think or at least 283 00:11:41,329 --> 00:11:39,180 self-serving I think that's the way we 284 00:11:44,630 --> 00:11:41,339 should look at this that these beings 285 00:11:46,190 --> 00:11:44,640 cover the gamut of moral development now 286 00:11:48,290 --> 00:11:46,200 that might be confusing to some people 287 00:11:50,150 --> 00:11:48,300 because they say well if they're just a 288 00:11:52,250 --> 00:11:50,160 gray alien one type why would there be 289 00:11:53,810 --> 00:11:52,260 so much Divergence in terms of their 290 00:11:56,090 --> 00:11:53,820 moral development 291 00:11:58,250 --> 00:11:56,100 well for one we can see a lot of that 292 00:12:00,650 --> 00:11:58,260 even with human beings 293 00:12:04,069 --> 00:12:00,660 at any given point in time including 294 00:12:05,870 --> 00:12:04,079 here in the 21st century 295 00:12:08,269 --> 00:12:05,880 another thing I would say here to 296 00:12:09,829 --> 00:12:08,279 interject into the conversation is that 297 00:12:12,050 --> 00:12:09,839 when you read the raw material for 298 00:12:15,050 --> 00:12:12,060 instance there are fourth density 299 00:12:17,569 --> 00:12:15,060 entities entities that are Beyond Us in 300 00:12:20,690 --> 00:12:17,579 terms of evolution they've dimensionally 301 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:20,700 shifted Beyond 3D which is kind of the 302 00:12:26,569 --> 00:12:23,519 state that we're in and these beings are 303 00:12:28,910 --> 00:12:26,579 both positive and negative or serving 304 00:12:30,650 --> 00:12:28,920 others or serving the all and serving 305 00:12:33,350 --> 00:12:30,660 themselves so you still have that 306 00:12:34,970 --> 00:12:33,360 Divergence there in terms of some beings 307 00:12:37,490 --> 00:12:34,980 are still kind of Power Players looking 308 00:12:38,389 --> 00:12:37,500 to dominate others playing that zero-sum 309 00:12:40,490 --> 00:12:38,399 game 310 00:12:42,829 --> 00:12:40,500 While others are more non-dual in their 311 00:12:44,870 --> 00:12:42,839 perspective and they're seeking to help 312 00:12:46,129 --> 00:12:44,880 and I think that partly explains what 313 00:12:48,590 --> 00:12:46,139 we're seeing here I think that's a good 314 00:12:51,290 --> 00:12:48,600 depiction of what we see it lines up 315 00:12:52,970 --> 00:12:51,300 well that even with one form this gray 316 00:12:55,790 --> 00:12:52,980 alien you get some that are very 317 00:12:58,790 --> 00:12:55,800 benevolent non-dual in realization and 318 00:13:01,069 --> 00:12:58,800 helping human beings others that either 319 00:13:03,170 --> 00:13:01,079 are self-serving or have kind of a 320 00:13:05,389 --> 00:13:03,180 symbiotic relationship but are still 321 00:13:07,850 --> 00:13:05,399 ultimately in it for themselves and 322 00:13:09,110 --> 00:13:07,860 playing the power game I think some of 323 00:13:11,210 --> 00:13:09,120 these ones are the ones that have made 324 00:13:13,190 --> 00:13:11,220 Accords with various human governments 325 00:13:15,230 --> 00:13:13,200 or maybe even governments that are kind 326 00:13:18,230 --> 00:13:15,240 of Shadow governments in order to 327 00:13:19,670 --> 00:13:18,240 dominate the human population again not 328 00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:19,680 trying to instill fear there I think 329 00:13:23,690 --> 00:13:21,600 there's plenty of good ones and I think 330 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:23,700 the most benevolent ones are the most 331 00:13:28,370 --> 00:13:25,940 advanced the most dimensionally shifted 332 00:13:32,210 --> 00:13:28,380 dimensionally Advanced along the 333 00:13:34,069 --> 00:13:32,220 spectrum of Consciousness development 334 00:13:36,230 --> 00:13:34,079 what else can we say of these gray 335 00:13:37,430 --> 00:13:36,240 aliens well another thing to make note 336 00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:37,440 of is that there are almost always 337 00:13:42,170 --> 00:13:39,600 telepathic and this is true of both the 338 00:13:43,970 --> 00:13:42,180 ones that are seen as benevolent and 339 00:13:46,970 --> 00:13:43,980 those that are seen as more malevolent 340 00:13:48,769 --> 00:13:46,980 or less mature shall we say 341 00:13:51,470 --> 00:13:48,779 now of course we all are familiar with 342 00:13:54,050 --> 00:13:51,480 the large wrap around almond-shaped eyes 343 00:13:56,210 --> 00:13:54,060 these are often described as oily black 344 00:13:57,590 --> 00:13:56,220 and are known to have a hypnotic effect 345 00:13:59,629 --> 00:13:57,600 on people 346 00:14:01,490 --> 00:13:59,639 now the benevolent ones are known to go 347 00:14:03,769 --> 00:14:01,500 out of their way to communicate in ways 348 00:14:05,449 --> 00:14:03,779 humans will understand waving and 349 00:14:07,730 --> 00:14:05,459 sometimes even forming the semblance of 350 00:14:09,710 --> 00:14:07,740 a smile even though this is usually not 351 00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:09,720 part of their normal behavior 352 00:14:13,610 --> 00:14:11,760 considering again they are fully 353 00:14:15,470 --> 00:14:13,620 telepathic with each other they don't 354 00:14:18,350 --> 00:14:15,480 use things like facial expressions and 355 00:14:21,829 --> 00:14:18,360 speech for that matter actual speech by 356 00:14:23,990 --> 00:14:21,839 moving their mouths much anymore 357 00:14:26,509 --> 00:14:24,000 now in that Wikipedia article I quoted 358 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:26,519 from you'll notice that these were often 359 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:29,279 known as Zetas and that's because there 360 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:31,320 is this belief that they come from Zeta 361 00:14:36,769 --> 00:14:34,560 reticuli now both the good and the bad 362 00:14:38,690 --> 00:14:36,779 or the mature and less mature is maybe a 363 00:14:41,210 --> 00:14:38,700 better way to put that groups are known 364 00:14:43,550 --> 00:14:41,220 to exist and are known to come from that 365 00:14:45,769 --> 00:14:43,560 part of the cosmos 366 00:14:48,650 --> 00:14:45,779 now often people who have had encounters 367 00:14:50,810 --> 00:14:48,660 with one have a hard time Imagining the 368 00:14:52,550 --> 00:14:50,820 other again this is where human bias 369 00:14:54,889 --> 00:14:52,560 comes in in other words if you're 370 00:14:57,170 --> 00:14:54,899 someone who's had extremely benevolent 371 00:14:59,329 --> 00:14:57,180 encounters with these beings that this 372 00:15:02,150 --> 00:14:59,339 form represents everything love and 373 00:15:03,650 --> 00:15:02,160 light goodness to you incarnate it's 374 00:15:05,150 --> 00:15:03,660 very hard for you to imagine that 375 00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:05,160 someone could have a negative experience 376 00:15:09,410 --> 00:15:07,920 with them try to imagine Santa Claus for 377 00:15:11,389 --> 00:15:09,420 instance and someone says to you 378 00:15:13,189 --> 00:15:11,399 negative Santa Claus comes down the 379 00:15:14,990 --> 00:15:13,199 chimney for me and it's never good you 380 00:15:16,850 --> 00:15:15,000 have a hard time imagining that because 381 00:15:20,090 --> 00:15:16,860 you've always seen them as this Jolly 382 00:15:22,370 --> 00:15:20,100 elf who brings gifts you get the point 383 00:15:24,949 --> 00:15:22,380 and of course the opposite is also true 384 00:15:26,449 --> 00:15:24,959 as well and of course it's important to 385 00:15:28,730 --> 00:15:26,459 point out that there are also those 386 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:28,740 kinds that people have interactions with 387 00:15:32,930 --> 00:15:30,540 that are kind of a middle of the road 388 00:15:35,030 --> 00:15:32,940 kind of moral trajectory in other words 389 00:15:37,430 --> 00:15:35,040 they seem a Lot Like Us business like 390 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:37,440 perhaps they have a job to do but 391 00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:39,600 they're not necessarily seen as evil or 392 00:15:44,509 --> 00:15:42,480 good benevolent or malevolent just here 393 00:15:46,129 --> 00:15:44,519 to do a job so to speak even if 394 00:15:49,069 --> 00:15:46,139 sometimes they're a bit business-like 395 00:15:50,750 --> 00:15:49,079 and arm's length in terms of their 396 00:15:53,090 --> 00:15:50,760 interaction with us they don't seem very 397 00:15:56,269 --> 00:15:53,100 emotional sometimes is what's reported 398 00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:56,279 even when they're not outright negative 399 00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:58,800 now speaking of the ones that are seen 400 00:16:03,410 --> 00:16:00,720 as negative and really do include some 401 00:16:06,490 --> 00:16:03,420 negative elements these encounters often 402 00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:06,500 involve mind control and an animal or 403 00:16:11,509 --> 00:16:09,120 commodity-like treatment of human beings 404 00:16:13,670 --> 00:16:11,519 again we see this in the so-called alien 405 00:16:16,370 --> 00:16:13,680 abduction phenomenon 406 00:16:18,290 --> 00:16:16,380 this phenomenon often involves invasive 407 00:16:20,090 --> 00:16:18,300 medical procedures 408 00:16:21,889 --> 00:16:20,100 procedures that really could be 409 00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:21,899 conducted in a different way that would 410 00:16:27,050 --> 00:16:24,079 involve less pain you would think 411 00:16:28,670 --> 00:16:27,060 sometimes the aliens the graves that are 412 00:16:29,930 --> 00:16:28,680 interacting with human beings and 413 00:16:32,509 --> 00:16:29,940 actually performing these medical 414 00:16:34,970 --> 00:16:32,519 procedures sometimes seem more 415 00:16:37,310 --> 00:16:34,980 frustrated by the human being screaming 416 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:37,320 and making noise than they are with the 417 00:16:41,150 --> 00:16:39,180 fact that the human being is expressing 418 00:16:41,990 --> 00:16:41,160 the fact that they're in some degree of 419 00:16:43,730 --> 00:16:42,000 pain 420 00:16:45,410 --> 00:16:43,740 now again I'm not saying there aren't 421 00:16:47,269 --> 00:16:45,420 benevolent ones that go out of their way 422 00:16:49,490 --> 00:16:47,279 to make us feel comfortable but there 423 00:16:51,829 --> 00:16:49,500 are also these negative encounters 424 00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:51,839 in which human Comfort doesn't seem to 425 00:16:56,569 --> 00:16:54,720 be very much of a high priority 426 00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:56,579 now speaking of abduction accounts 427 00:17:01,009 --> 00:16:58,800 involving these gray alien forms these 428 00:17:02,629 --> 00:17:01,019 great alien types these are often 429 00:17:04,850 --> 00:17:02,639 multi-generational 430 00:17:07,010 --> 00:17:04,860 now parents feel particularly helpless 431 00:17:10,010 --> 00:17:07,020 in these cases when they are seen as 432 00:17:12,049 --> 00:17:10,020 negative or not very positive it's 433 00:17:14,270 --> 00:17:12,059 helpless feeling for these parents when 434 00:17:16,189 --> 00:17:14,280 they cannot stop this from happening to 435 00:17:17,329 --> 00:17:16,199 their children knowing what they went 436 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:17,339 through 437 00:17:22,130 --> 00:17:19,679 now these often involve various apparent 438 00:17:23,449 --> 00:17:22,140 hybridization programs as I mentioned in 439 00:17:25,250 --> 00:17:23,459 the introduction 440 00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:25,260 now what's strange about these is 441 00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:26,640 sometimes even there'll be these strange 442 00:17:30,770 --> 00:17:28,860 bonding rituals that are requested by 443 00:17:32,930 --> 00:17:30,780 these Graves or basically it's almost 444 00:17:36,529 --> 00:17:32,940 like a force thing where a human being 445 00:17:38,450 --> 00:17:36,539 is abducted and then asked to hold one 446 00:17:41,810 --> 00:17:38,460 of these hybrid babies that look 447 00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:41,820 something like half human half gray and 448 00:17:45,890 --> 00:17:43,740 they hold them for maybe 10 minutes half 449 00:17:47,330 --> 00:17:45,900 an hour an hour and then they're taken 450 00:17:49,070 --> 00:17:47,340 back on the craft and the human being 451 00:17:51,049 --> 00:17:49,080 has re you know returned to Earth 452 00:17:52,490 --> 00:17:51,059 sometimes that hybrid might be taken to 453 00:17:54,710 --> 00:17:52,500 a different planet they're told or 454 00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:54,720 somewhere else in the Galaxy but again 455 00:17:59,150 --> 00:17:56,760 you have to ask yourself what did that 456 00:18:01,549 --> 00:17:59,160 half hour or an hour really do in terms 457 00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:01,559 of bonding is this because they 458 00:18:04,789 --> 00:18:03,360 awkwardly don't really understand human 459 00:18:07,250 --> 00:18:04,799 bonding and this is just a really 460 00:18:09,230 --> 00:18:07,260 superficial way of trying to sort of 461 00:18:10,850 --> 00:18:09,240 just check that off the list oh yeah 462 00:18:12,710 --> 00:18:10,860 bonding we had to do that that's what 463 00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:12,720 human beings do so we'll do that for 464 00:18:16,669 --> 00:18:14,400 half an hour so we can say we've done it 465 00:18:18,590 --> 00:18:16,679 or is it that there's more than meets 466 00:18:20,750 --> 00:18:18,600 the eye here that this is more of a 467 00:18:22,190 --> 00:18:20,760 psychological Ploy doing something in 468 00:18:23,330 --> 00:18:22,200 our deep subconscious that we don't 469 00:18:25,730 --> 00:18:23,340 really understand 470 00:18:27,470 --> 00:18:25,740 in other words the bonding ritual is 471 00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:27,480 kind of a ruse for something else that's 472 00:18:30,590 --> 00:18:28,559 going on 473 00:18:32,450 --> 00:18:30,600 now in terms of these hybridization 474 00:18:34,610 --> 00:18:32,460 programs of course this begs a whole 475 00:18:37,010 --> 00:18:34,620 series of new questions why would they 476 00:18:38,930 --> 00:18:37,020 be hybridizing with human beings how can 477 00:18:40,970 --> 00:18:38,940 they hybridize with human beings again 478 00:18:42,650 --> 00:18:40,980 we're back to this question of not only 479 00:18:44,990 --> 00:18:42,660 do they have a human form that's so 480 00:18:47,330 --> 00:18:45,000 similar to us but apparently they seem 481 00:18:49,610 --> 00:18:47,340 to be genetically compatible with us in 482 00:18:51,710 --> 00:18:49,620 some way which you could argue suggests 483 00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:51,720 a common background in terms of DNA 484 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:54,720 Heritage now some might suggest that 485 00:18:58,430 --> 00:18:56,640 with their advanced technology they've 486 00:19:01,010 --> 00:18:58,440 just found ways to get beyond that that 487 00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:01,020 they can actually make compatible to 488 00:19:05,570 --> 00:19:02,880 kinds of species that weren't beforehand 489 00:19:07,130 --> 00:19:05,580 but this at least begs the question why 490 00:19:10,010 --> 00:19:07,140 are these hybridization programs going 491 00:19:11,810 --> 00:19:10,020 on and how are they even possible 492 00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:11,820 now again there's been a few suggestions 493 00:19:17,390 --> 00:19:14,640 in terms of why they're going on one 494 00:19:19,850 --> 00:19:17,400 idea is that they just like to play 495 00:19:21,529 --> 00:19:19,860 games they like to experiment with 496 00:19:23,810 --> 00:19:21,539 different kinds of species and so this 497 00:19:25,909 --> 00:19:23,820 is part of a game to them to take two 498 00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:25,919 different forms put them together and 499 00:19:29,870 --> 00:19:28,559 see what comes out another possibility 500 00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:29,880 is that they're highly Advanced and 501 00:19:33,770 --> 00:19:31,440 they're actually populating different 502 00:19:36,409 --> 00:19:33,780 planets with new life forms that they 503 00:19:37,549 --> 00:19:36,419 are basically the progenitors of these 504 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:37,559 different species these different 505 00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:39,840 civilizations the origins of these 506 00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:41,940 different civilizations owe their 507 00:19:46,370 --> 00:19:44,400 Beginnings to these beings and perhaps 508 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:46,380 they are hybridizing with us and then 509 00:19:50,270 --> 00:19:48,240 are going to use this to start some new 510 00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:50,280 planetary civilization 511 00:19:54,770 --> 00:19:52,559 another possibility of course is that 512 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:54,780 perhaps some of them have an 513 00:19:59,150 --> 00:19:57,360 impoverished genetic fool they have come 514 00:20:01,549 --> 00:19:59,160 into a kind of a dead end where they 515 00:20:04,490 --> 00:20:01,559 need some genetic variance in order to 516 00:20:06,770 --> 00:20:04,500 inject New Life new Vitality into their 517 00:20:08,450 --> 00:20:06,780 genetic pool and perhaps they have found 518 00:20:10,610 --> 00:20:08,460 that human beings are compatible in a 519 00:20:13,010 --> 00:20:10,620 way that serves this purpose 520 00:20:15,169 --> 00:20:13,020 indeed to this end I'll have you know 521 00:20:17,570 --> 00:20:15,179 that some very interesting letters were 522 00:20:19,610 --> 00:20:17,580 uncovered that were written in the 20th 523 00:20:22,190 --> 00:20:19,620 century written to various government 524 00:20:24,529 --> 00:20:22,200 figures within the United States 525 00:20:27,049 --> 00:20:24,539 government basically making this claim 526 00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:27,059 that it was known by some elements of 527 00:20:32,990 --> 00:20:30,240 the US government that an ET species had 528 00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:33,000 come here needing our genetic variants 529 00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:35,760 to remedies some sort of malady and 530 00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:37,380 their genetic Heritage that had gone 531 00:20:42,529 --> 00:20:40,320 wrong and that some human governments 532 00:20:44,810 --> 00:20:42,539 had actually agreed to let this happen 533 00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:44,820 under their watch basically the 534 00:20:49,549 --> 00:20:47,280 Abduction of citizens and The Taking of 535 00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:49,559 various genetic materials in exchange 536 00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:52,080 for technology for instance that's one 537 00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,760 of not only the stories that came out 538 00:20:57,890 --> 00:20:55,440 but I've actually seen letters written 539 00:20:59,930 --> 00:20:57,900 credible letters written that are now in 540 00:21:01,190 --> 00:20:59,940 various archives that speak to this very 541 00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:01,200 kind of event 542 00:21:05,390 --> 00:21:03,120 and of course speaking of different 543 00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:05,400 Notions of why this hybridization would 544 00:21:09,770 --> 00:21:07,679 be going on I would be remiss to not 545 00:21:12,529 --> 00:21:09,780 mention there is like that put forward 546 00:21:15,529 --> 00:21:12,539 by Dr David Jacobs suggesting this 547 00:21:17,570 --> 00:21:15,539 hybridization program is a nefarious 548 00:21:20,210 --> 00:21:17,580 kind of affair where ultimately they 549 00:21:23,090 --> 00:21:20,220 want to take over planet Earth and they 550 00:21:25,390 --> 00:21:23,100 are slowly injecting their DNA into ours 551 00:21:28,250 --> 00:21:25,400 to turn us into kind of zombie humans 552 00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:28,260 that will be basically passive when they 553 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:30,480 eventually take over or in another 554 00:21:35,330 --> 00:21:33,360 scenario we have part of them in us our 555 00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:35,340 future descendants to anyway so there 556 00:21:38,990 --> 00:21:36,960 really isn't any kind of fight or even 557 00:21:40,669 --> 00:21:39,000 argument when they eventually come and 558 00:21:45,049 --> 00:21:40,679 take over because we are effectively 559 00:21:47,570 --> 00:21:45,059 them as well so either fully gray alien 560 00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:47,580 or half and half or something like that 561 00:21:53,570 --> 00:21:50,820 some sort of hybrid form alien and human 562 00:21:56,029 --> 00:21:53,580 that has basically been bred to be well 563 00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:56,039 adapted well adjusted to the notion of 564 00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:59,039 this takeover by this alien species in 565 00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:00,960 the future of course by then the notion 566 00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:03,900 is so many of us would be zombie humans 567 00:22:07,850 --> 00:22:06,000 or these kind of alien human hybrids 568 00:22:10,970 --> 00:22:07,860 that there wouldn't be much of a fuss at 569 00:22:12,529 --> 00:22:10,980 all when the Takeover actually happened 570 00:22:14,330 --> 00:22:12,539 needless to say I'm sure it's not 571 00:22:16,730 --> 00:22:14,340 surprising to you I don't put a lot of 572 00:22:18,350 --> 00:22:16,740 stock in that kind of notion but I would 573 00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:18,360 be remiss to not at least bring it to 574 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:19,440 your attention 575 00:22:23,390 --> 00:22:21,360 one other notion put forward to explain 576 00:22:25,490 --> 00:22:23,400 why this hybridization will be going on 577 00:22:27,950 --> 00:22:25,500 and not just the hybridization but also 578 00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,960 the Gathering of genetic material is 579 00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:30,000 because they are concerned that we will 580 00:22:34,370 --> 00:22:31,919 blow ourselves up that we are on the 581 00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:34,380 precipice of self-destruction and 582 00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:36,000 perhaps According to some experience for 583 00:22:40,250 --> 00:22:37,919 accounts they claim they've even seen 584 00:22:43,250 --> 00:22:40,260 other species get to this point and 585 00:22:45,049 --> 00:22:43,260 basically self-destruct so on the one 586 00:22:46,730 --> 00:22:45,059 hand they're trying to help us behind 587 00:22:48,830 --> 00:22:46,740 the scenes to prevent that from 588 00:22:50,330 --> 00:22:48,840 happening but in case they're not able 589 00:22:52,490 --> 00:22:50,340 to prevent it and we do end up 590 00:22:55,310 --> 00:22:52,500 self-destructing they want to have our 591 00:22:58,190 --> 00:22:55,320 DNA on tap basically so they can 592 00:23:00,649 --> 00:22:58,200 reproduce us somewhere else if necessary 593 00:23:03,230 --> 00:23:00,659 because they recognize the value of 594 00:23:05,690 --> 00:23:03,240 human DNA of life in general and kind of 595 00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:05,700 like scientists on an expedition they 596 00:23:09,890 --> 00:23:07,679 want to hold on to that material in case 597 00:23:11,870 --> 00:23:09,900 they need to repopulate us so we don't 598 00:23:14,570 --> 00:23:11,880 completely get wiped off the cosmic 599 00:23:15,890 --> 00:23:14,580 scene if we do self-destruct here on 600 00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:15,900 planet Earth 601 00:23:19,850 --> 00:23:18,000 one final reason I'll put forward in 602 00:23:22,250 --> 00:23:19,860 terms of why this hybridization might be 603 00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:22,260 happening is because perhaps they are 604 00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:24,960 setting up a series of ambassadorships 605 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:27,120 that they want a group of ambassadors 606 00:23:32,930 --> 00:23:30,419 basically half human half alien that can 607 00:23:34,669 --> 00:23:32,940 help some sort of transition not 608 00:23:36,529 --> 00:23:34,679 necessarily A nefarious transition in 609 00:23:38,029 --> 00:23:36,539 terms of them taking over but maybe 610 00:23:40,430 --> 00:23:38,039 because they're going to become more 611 00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:40,440 public they will expose themselves to us 612 00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:42,720 in a mass way it'll become part of 613 00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:45,120 public knowledge that they're here and 614 00:23:50,090 --> 00:23:47,520 to Aid in that transition to reduce the 615 00:23:52,669 --> 00:23:50,100 shock the idea is there will be human 616 00:23:55,250 --> 00:23:52,679 beings that are basically hybrids across 617 00:23:56,270 --> 00:23:55,260 a planet that can help navigate this 618 00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,280 transition 619 00:24:01,250 --> 00:23:58,559 it also should be pointed out here that 620 00:24:04,370 --> 00:24:01,260 these ambassadors these hybrid human 621 00:24:06,770 --> 00:24:04,380 alien types would also be able to help 622 00:24:09,470 --> 00:24:06,780 with communication not just in terms of 623 00:24:11,330 --> 00:24:09,480 aliens communicating with us but with us 624 00:24:14,510 --> 00:24:11,340 communicating with them in other words 625 00:24:16,610 --> 00:24:14,520 by having half alien half human DNA or 626 00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:16,620 something like that they understand both 627 00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:18,960 species to some degree and this helps 628 00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:21,480 with the communication process you can 629 00:24:26,330 --> 00:24:24,000 think of Spock on Star Trek who is half 630 00:24:28,430 --> 00:24:26,340 Vulcan half human and seem to understand 631 00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:28,440 both groups to some degree because of 632 00:24:32,990 --> 00:24:30,840 this even though sometimes as a 633 00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:33,000 character he was kind of torn by this 634 00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:34,440 dual nature 635 00:24:39,049 --> 00:24:36,480 I would also point out that I really do 636 00:24:41,390 --> 00:24:39,059 believe evidence suggests these beings 637 00:24:43,610 --> 00:24:41,400 already exist these hybrids and some of 638 00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:43,620 them are walking amongst us and part of 639 00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:45,120 the reason why I believe that's the case 640 00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:47,100 and you're not seeing them necessarily 641 00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:48,840 and saying that looks an awful lot like 642 00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:50,820 something like a cross between a gray 643 00:24:55,610 --> 00:24:53,340 and a human is because often they look 644 00:24:57,890 --> 00:24:55,620 fully human again I think we have to 645 00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:57,900 remember that they are highly Advanced 646 00:25:01,789 --> 00:25:00,000 technologically and they can pull this 647 00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:01,799 off in a way that is kind of going to 648 00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:03,360 dupe us we're not going to know the 649 00:25:08,210 --> 00:25:05,580 difference necessarily until it's time 650 00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:08,220 and then they can be revealed again it's 651 00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:10,260 not so much about the form here as it is 652 00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:12,480 about the shared understanding the 653 00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:14,100 bridge between the two different sides 654 00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:16,860 in terms of communication if indeed this 655 00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:19,260 is what these ambassadors are for if 656 00:25:22,730 --> 00:25:21,120 these hybrids are actually ambassadors 657 00:25:25,850 --> 00:25:22,740 and I'll just remind you that people 658 00:25:29,210 --> 00:25:25,860 like Susie Hansen have spoken in this 659 00:25:31,610 --> 00:25:29,220 way about her own ability to communicate 660 00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:31,620 between both sides and she suggested 661 00:25:36,289 --> 00:25:34,020 this is the mission she has to basically 662 00:25:38,269 --> 00:25:36,299 be an Ambassador when some sort of 663 00:25:40,430 --> 00:25:38,279 massive transition happens in the future 664 00:25:42,409 --> 00:25:40,440 again we talked about that recently in 665 00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:42,419 the cataclysm episode 666 00:25:46,669 --> 00:25:44,820 now interestingly Susie Hansen is not 667 00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:46,679 the only person saying these kinds of 668 00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:48,960 things in fact right in her home 669 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:51,600 Australia New Zealand kind of area there 670 00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:54,240 is another person named Judy Carroll who 671 00:25:58,850 --> 00:25:56,640 has a very similar story about initially 672 00:26:01,250 --> 00:25:58,860 being shocked by having encounters with 673 00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:01,260 what she realized were aliens and then 674 00:26:06,289 --> 00:26:02,640 later realizing these were very 675 00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,299 benevolent very non-dual realized beings 676 00:26:10,669 --> 00:26:08,880 who are here to help and that she even 677 00:26:12,890 --> 00:26:10,679 realized that she had some sort of 678 00:26:15,649 --> 00:26:12,900 connection to them and even that she 679 00:26:18,769 --> 00:26:15,659 like Susie Hansen had kind of a dual 680 00:26:21,049 --> 00:26:18,779 nature half gray half-human and when you 681 00:26:22,850 --> 00:26:21,059 read her book The Zeta message again 682 00:26:24,769 --> 00:26:22,860 because she believes they are from Zeta 683 00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:24,779 reticuli that's what she says they have 684 00:26:29,570 --> 00:26:26,940 told her she believes they are basically 685 00:26:32,029 --> 00:26:29,580 non-dual realized beings fully 686 00:26:34,130 --> 00:26:32,039 benevolent siblings in Cosmic 687 00:26:35,690 --> 00:26:34,140 Consciousness if you will here to help 688 00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:35,700 us and here to help us make the 689 00:26:40,130 --> 00:26:37,679 transition from a technologically 690 00:26:41,810 --> 00:26:40,140 sophisticated species who's on the brink 691 00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:41,820 of self-destruction because of our 692 00:26:46,430 --> 00:26:43,980 technology magical prowess that has not 693 00:26:49,130 --> 00:26:46,440 seen an equivalent increase in 694 00:26:51,529 --> 00:26:49,140 Consciousness capacity navigate these 695 00:26:54,110 --> 00:26:51,539 tricky Waters in our history 696 00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:54,120 so that covers some of the main points 697 00:26:59,390 --> 00:26:56,880 within the Extraterrestrial aspect of 698 00:27:01,610 --> 00:26:59,400 this conversation but of course as I 699 00:27:03,890 --> 00:27:01,620 hinted at in the introduction there's 700 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:03,900 another possibility here and this has 701 00:27:09,049 --> 00:27:06,480 been gaining steam you might say now 702 00:27:11,149 --> 00:27:09,059 Professor Michael Masters says that 703 00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:11,159 these beings these gray aliens when he 704 00:27:15,230 --> 00:27:12,720 looks at them and when he thinks about 705 00:27:16,190 --> 00:27:15,240 them as an evolutionary biologist more 706 00:27:18,169 --> 00:27:16,200 importantly 707 00:27:19,789 --> 00:27:18,179 he claims they are almost certainly 708 00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:19,799 related to us 709 00:27:24,590 --> 00:27:21,480 he also believes that the future human 710 00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,600 hypothesis is more parsimonious takes 711 00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,159 less of a stretch you don't have to 712 00:27:30,409 --> 00:27:28,559 include aliens in the picture all you 713 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,419 need is time travel and we already 714 00:27:35,450 --> 00:27:32,640 believe hypothetically theoretically 715 00:27:36,830 --> 00:27:35,460 even that time travel is possible we 716 00:27:37,850 --> 00:27:36,840 already have ways we can think about 717 00:27:40,610 --> 00:27:37,860 that 718 00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:40,620 in other words practically pragmatically 719 00:27:45,950 --> 00:27:43,320 it's logical to assume that if time 720 00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:45,960 travel is theoretically possible and 721 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,520 leading theorists believe it basically 722 00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:49,200 is there are some who don't but 723 00:27:53,090 --> 00:27:51,240 generally there's growing consensus that 724 00:27:55,010 --> 00:27:53,100 it is part of the picture that 725 00:27:57,409 --> 00:27:55,020 space-time is one fabric when you warp 726 00:28:00,289 --> 00:27:57,419 it enough you can both travel in time 727 00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:00,299 and space so if that's the case then 728 00:28:04,490 --> 00:28:02,240 it's logical to assume that eventually 729 00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:04,500 assuming we don't blow ourselves up 730 00:28:10,010 --> 00:28:07,620 anytime soon that our descendants will 731 00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:10,020 develop the capacity to travel in time 732 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:12,720 and based on our history you can almost 733 00:28:18,049 --> 00:28:15,360 guarantee that if if we can do it we 734 00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:18,059 will do it and what Michael Masters is 735 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:19,380 saying is that when you look at gray 736 00:28:25,610 --> 00:28:22,320 aliens what we see is evidence plainly 737 00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:25,620 in front of us that this is us from the 738 00:28:30,649 --> 00:28:28,500 Future come back to do something the 739 00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:30,659 question is what are they here on some 740 00:28:35,450 --> 00:28:32,640 sort of scientific expedition to just 741 00:28:38,390 --> 00:28:35,460 study their ancient ancestors in a up 742 00:28:40,730 --> 00:28:38,400 close and personal way or are they here 743 00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:40,740 to change something in the timeline to 744 00:28:44,690 --> 00:28:42,600 prevent something from happening or to 745 00:28:45,950 --> 00:28:44,700 ensure something is going to happen I 746 00:28:48,049 --> 00:28:45,960 already talked about in previous 747 00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:48,059 episodes and we touched on it again last 748 00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:51,120 time in the cataclysm episode that part 749 00:28:54,730 --> 00:28:52,559 of the Intel 750 00:28:58,010 --> 00:28:54,740 that I found from various sources 751 00:29:00,289 --> 00:28:58,020 suggests that there are Notions in the 752 00:29:03,409 --> 00:29:00,299 intelligence communities suggesting that 753 00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,419 there are more than one faction of these 754 00:29:07,549 --> 00:29:05,520 future humans here and that they are 755 00:29:09,769 --> 00:29:07,559 here in relation to some sort of 756 00:29:11,930 --> 00:29:09,779 cataclysm that's coming in a non-very 757 00:29:13,610 --> 00:29:11,940 distant future I won't go into this in 758 00:29:15,470 --> 00:29:13,620 detail because I've already discussed it 759 00:29:17,210 --> 00:29:15,480 elsewhere again if you didn't hear last 760 00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:17,220 times episode I go back and listen to 761 00:29:22,490 --> 00:29:20,640 that episode 77 where I discuss this in 762 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,500 more detail and even in previous 763 00:29:27,169 --> 00:29:24,720 episodes I did three episodes in a row 764 00:29:30,409 --> 00:29:27,179 covering this time traveling future 765 00:29:32,930 --> 00:29:30,419 human hypothesis again Masters calls 766 00:29:35,149 --> 00:29:32,940 these extra tempestules because they're 767 00:29:38,029 --> 00:29:35,159 not extraterrestrial they're not beyond 768 00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:38,039 the Earth they're beyond time our time 769 00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:41,279 hence extra tempestrial now of course 770 00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:42,840 that also means they're from elsewhere 771 00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:44,460 because the Earth is going to be in a 772 00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:45,960 different place a different location in 773 00:29:52,730 --> 00:29:48,960 space in the future nevertheless extra 774 00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:52,740 tempestral focuses on this time aspect 775 00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:54,240 and we just want to make this really 776 00:29:57,470 --> 00:29:55,200 clear 777 00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,480 Masters is an evolutionary biologist 778 00:30:02,750 --> 00:29:59,520 this is his specialty he has a 779 00:30:05,450 --> 00:30:02,760 specialization in the hominid line and 780 00:30:07,130 --> 00:30:05,460 interestingly even he says when he saw 781 00:30:09,289 --> 00:30:07,140 the front cover of communion all those 782 00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:09,299 years ago when he was a kid he 783 00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:11,880 immediately thought that being must be 784 00:30:16,669 --> 00:30:13,919 related to us in some way 785 00:30:19,310 --> 00:30:16,679 as it turns out he went on and got a PhD 786 00:30:21,529 --> 00:30:19,320 in this very field so he could study it 787 00:30:23,149 --> 00:30:21,539 again you might ask yourself is that 788 00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:23,159 kind of an interesting coincidence that 789 00:30:26,570 --> 00:30:24,960 he went into that what's that all about 790 00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:26,580 maybe we'll hear more from him in the 791 00:30:31,610 --> 00:30:29,039 future about that but nevertheless it's 792 00:30:33,889 --> 00:30:31,620 put him in a prime position to look at 793 00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:33,899 this look at the evidence in an 794 00:30:39,710 --> 00:30:36,240 objective way based on a specialization 795 00:30:41,149 --> 00:30:39,720 in this specific kind of study and he's 796 00:30:43,850 --> 00:30:41,159 saying that when he looks at them 797 00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:43,860 considers their different aspects they 798 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,320 almost certainly are related to us 799 00:30:51,529 --> 00:30:48,960 and furthermore based on the current 800 00:30:53,810 --> 00:30:51,539 trajectory of The evolutionary line of 801 00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:53,820 human beings he says if you just follow 802 00:30:57,710 --> 00:30:56,159 that out a few thousand years you will 803 00:31:00,289 --> 00:30:57,720 end up with something that looks a lot 804 00:31:02,029 --> 00:31:00,299 like a gray alien and that's without any 805 00:31:04,370 --> 00:31:02,039 kind of major event happening in the 806 00:31:07,130 --> 00:31:04,380 future that the larger head the larger 807 00:31:09,529 --> 00:31:07,140 eyes the more childlike features those 808 00:31:12,049 --> 00:31:09,539 kinds of things are already Something 809 00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:12,059 That We're evolving towards so it's not 810 00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:13,440 a stretch in his mind that we would 811 00:31:17,510 --> 00:31:16,020 eventually look like gray aliens and 812 00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:17,520 again from his point of view the 813 00:31:22,010 --> 00:31:20,220 humanoid thing you can't get past they 814 00:31:24,409 --> 00:31:22,020 look so much like humans because they 815 00:31:27,230 --> 00:31:24,419 actually are humans just humans further 816 00:31:29,570 --> 00:31:27,240 along the evolutionary trajectory 817 00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:29,580 now we already discussed why the ETS 818 00:31:33,710 --> 00:31:31,679 might be here and why they may be doing 819 00:31:35,330 --> 00:31:33,720 this hybridization 820 00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:35,340 but what if these are actually extra 821 00:31:39,049 --> 00:31:37,740 tempestules why would they be doing this 822 00:31:41,210 --> 00:31:39,059 why would they be conducting 823 00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:41,220 hybridization programs and Gathering 824 00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:43,140 genetic material 825 00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:44,640 we already talked about there possibly 826 00:31:50,029 --> 00:31:47,220 here in relation to this timeline and 827 00:31:52,610 --> 00:31:50,039 the cataclysm issue but taken apart from 828 00:31:54,769 --> 00:31:52,620 that we need to reckon with the fact 829 00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:54,779 that genetic material is being gathered 830 00:31:59,450 --> 00:31:56,399 and if these beings are actually extra 831 00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:59,460 tempestules you ask yourself why 832 00:32:04,250 --> 00:32:01,679 now one of the main arguments has been 833 00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:04,260 that they somehow end up in a 834 00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,480 genetically impoverished condition again 835 00:32:10,430 --> 00:32:08,159 kind of like the ETS we talked about 836 00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:10,440 where they actually are lacking genetic 837 00:32:14,330 --> 00:32:12,480 variants and they're suffering birth 838 00:32:16,130 --> 00:32:14,340 defects basically likely you have an 839 00:32:17,870 --> 00:32:16,140 inbreeding because there just aren't 840 00:32:20,510 --> 00:32:17,880 enough of them and not enough variants 841 00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:20,520 to ensure a healthy stock so the only 842 00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:23,820 way they can remedy that malady is to 843 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:26,159 come back in time and find beings that 844 00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:27,600 are compatible with them because they're 845 00:32:33,769 --> 00:32:30,960 their ancestors who have been lost to 846 00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,779 the Arc of time but because there's more 847 00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:35,279 variance in our time they're able to 848 00:32:40,370 --> 00:32:37,799 come back take genetic material inject 849 00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:40,380 it back into future populations and to 850 00:32:45,049 --> 00:32:43,200 remedy these maladies that assumes some 851 00:32:47,810 --> 00:32:45,059 sort of again genetic impoverishment 852 00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:47,820 some sort of disease-like issue that's 853 00:32:51,950 --> 00:32:50,399 been brought into the genetic stock but 854 00:32:53,450 --> 00:32:51,960 there are other possibilities too some 855 00:32:55,610 --> 00:32:53,460 people have talked about the fact that 856 00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:55,620 they may have or we may have in the 857 00:33:01,070 --> 00:32:58,559 future basically bred emotion out of us 858 00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:01,080 that this was actually something we aim 859 00:33:05,149 --> 00:33:02,880 to do at some point but then later 860 00:33:07,490 --> 00:33:05,159 regretted it perhaps we realized that 861 00:33:09,769 --> 00:33:07,500 like Spock you kind of need a bit of 862 00:33:11,870 --> 00:33:09,779 human and a bit of Vulcan to really make 863 00:33:14,029 --> 00:33:11,880 wise decisions you don't want to lose 864 00:33:15,889 --> 00:33:14,039 emotional intelligence and perhaps 865 00:33:18,350 --> 00:33:15,899 that's what we did so one of the 866 00:33:20,690 --> 00:33:18,360 arguments one of the even accounts put 867 00:33:23,389 --> 00:33:20,700 forward by experiencers is that these 868 00:33:25,610 --> 00:33:23,399 beings say they've lost the ability to 869 00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:25,620 be emotional and they've suffered 870 00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:27,480 because of it not just individually but 871 00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,760 as a collective so by coming back and 872 00:33:33,889 --> 00:33:31,440 taking some of our stock they're hoping 873 00:33:36,590 --> 00:33:33,899 to inject that element back into their 874 00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:36,600 own future so again it's interesting how 875 00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,340 much overlap there is here in terms of 876 00:33:42,649 --> 00:33:40,559 the accounts provided by experiencers 877 00:33:44,210 --> 00:33:42,659 based on what they've been told told by 878 00:33:45,889 --> 00:33:44,220 these other beings 879 00:33:47,810 --> 00:33:45,899 now one thing I would point out to you 880 00:33:50,029 --> 00:33:47,820 here is that part of the account we hear 881 00:33:52,130 --> 00:33:50,039 from intelligent circles is that these 882 00:33:54,289 --> 00:33:52,140 extra tempestules these beings from the 883 00:33:56,210 --> 00:33:54,299 future who look like great aliens but 884 00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:56,220 are actually just neo-humans future 885 00:34:01,250 --> 00:33:59,360 humans want us to believe they're 886 00:34:03,529 --> 00:34:01,260 extraterrestrials because they don't 887 00:34:06,110 --> 00:34:03,539 want to interfere with our timeline by 888 00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:06,120 us knowing they are future humans that 889 00:34:11,329 --> 00:34:08,159 somehow they will do less damage to the 890 00:34:13,609 --> 00:34:11,339 timeline be less interventionary by 891 00:34:15,649 --> 00:34:13,619 letting us believe they are space aliens 892 00:34:17,629 --> 00:34:15,659 from Zeta reticuli or somewhere else 893 00:34:19,010 --> 00:34:17,639 when really they are just our 894 00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:19,020 descendants 895 00:34:23,329 --> 00:34:20,820 now I'll leave it up to you to decide 896 00:34:24,770 --> 00:34:23,339 how compelling that argument is but 897 00:34:26,210 --> 00:34:24,780 that's not only what some people have 898 00:34:28,609 --> 00:34:26,220 suggested but that's even what 899 00:34:30,649 --> 00:34:28,619 intelligent sources have suggested they 900 00:34:32,510 --> 00:34:30,659 were told by these extra-term pastorals 901 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,520 that they are actually us from the 902 00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:34,560 future but they let the public believe 903 00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:37,260 they are space aliens so they cause less 904 00:34:42,770 --> 00:34:39,240 damage to the timeline at least 905 00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,780 potentially that is one story anyway 906 00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:44,879 and now I like to offer you a few other 907 00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:47,220 kind of ideas to consider that might 908 00:34:51,530 --> 00:34:48,960 make sense of the fact that these are 909 00:34:54,649 --> 00:34:51,540 humanoid beings that look very human in 910 00:34:57,650 --> 00:34:54,659 some ways even if not precisely human 911 00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:57,660 one possibility involves ancient common 912 00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:00,720 seeding the idea here is that there is a 913 00:35:05,210 --> 00:35:03,180 cosmic seating program and evolutionary 914 00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:05,220 Divergence has happened based on 915 00:35:09,410 --> 00:35:07,140 circumstance and different planetary 916 00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:09,420 factors in other words what if you 917 00:35:13,970 --> 00:35:11,760 originally had the seating of one sort 918 00:35:16,430 --> 00:35:13,980 of base level kind of being 919 00:35:18,109 --> 00:35:16,440 and then based on the environmental 920 00:35:20,750 --> 00:35:18,119 conditions of whatever Planet they were 921 00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:20,760 planted on they developed slightly 922 00:35:24,829 --> 00:35:22,560 differently so you still get a humanoid 923 00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:24,839 form but you get some Divergence because 924 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:27,359 of different environmental conditions 925 00:35:31,550 --> 00:35:30,180 presumably on different planets that's 926 00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:31,560 another possibility that would make 927 00:35:36,770 --> 00:35:34,079 sense of why we see so much common 928 00:35:38,210 --> 00:35:36,780 humanoid characteristics 929 00:35:41,690 --> 00:35:38,220 another possibility that's very 930 00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:41,700 intriguing speaking of time involves an 931 00:35:45,950 --> 00:35:44,220 alternate Earth timeline so what if 932 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:45,960 these actually are beings not from our 933 00:35:51,050 --> 00:35:49,200 future but from our past but that took a 934 00:35:53,810 --> 00:35:51,060 different evolutionary trajectory than 935 00:35:55,790 --> 00:35:53,820 us in an alternate Earth that's 936 00:35:58,190 --> 00:35:55,800 certainly possible all it would take is 937 00:36:00,050 --> 00:35:58,200 perhaps one more meteor hitting the 938 00:36:01,970 --> 00:36:00,060 Earth and you know blotting up the Sun 939 00:36:03,650 --> 00:36:01,980 for a long period of time where you 940 00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:03,660 would end up with beings human beings 941 00:36:07,490 --> 00:36:05,760 that looked different that had that 942 00:36:09,230 --> 00:36:07,500 paler skin because there wasn't much 943 00:36:11,390 --> 00:36:09,240 sunlight because being blocked out by 944 00:36:14,569 --> 00:36:11,400 the clouds they would develop these huge 945 00:36:16,190 --> 00:36:14,579 eyes because they needed to draw as much 946 00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:16,200 light from the environment as they could 947 00:36:20,329 --> 00:36:17,640 again because it's darker because 948 00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:20,339 perhaps this planet this planet earth 949 00:36:25,310 --> 00:36:23,160 has been covered by clouds and perhaps 950 00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:25,320 because of various difficulties they 951 00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,599 learned telepathy to a greater degree 952 00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:30,000 than we have because of again different 953 00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,700 planetary conditions even though the 954 00:36:37,370 --> 00:36:34,800 ultimate planet is the same one Earth 955 00:36:40,910 --> 00:36:37,380 just an alternate Earth in a different 956 00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,920 timeline that's possible too 957 00:36:44,450 --> 00:36:42,480 one other piece to bring to your 958 00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:44,460 attention is the notion of convergent 959 00:36:50,450 --> 00:36:47,160 evolution which is defined like this 960 00:36:53,630 --> 00:36:50,460 quote convergent evolution occurs when 961 00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:53,640 species occupy similar ecological niches 962 00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:56,400 and adapt in similar ways in response to 963 00:37:02,630 --> 00:36:59,760 similar selective pressures traits that 964 00:37:05,870 --> 00:37:02,640 arise through convergent evolution are 965 00:37:08,030 --> 00:37:05,880 referred to as analogous structures 966 00:37:10,010 --> 00:37:08,040 they are contrasted with homologous 967 00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:10,020 structures which have a common origin 968 00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:11,520 unquote 969 00:37:15,410 --> 00:37:13,920 so the notion here is kind of countered 970 00:37:17,690 --> 00:37:15,420 to this common claim that we learned 971 00:37:19,849 --> 00:37:17,700 about in biology growing up suggesting 972 00:37:21,050 --> 00:37:19,859 that likely alien life would look very 973 00:37:22,910 --> 00:37:21,060 different because they had different 974 00:37:24,650 --> 00:37:22,920 planetary conditions 975 00:37:27,050 --> 00:37:24,660 but we know that actually there's 976 00:37:29,150 --> 00:37:27,060 constraints across the cosmos that might 977 00:37:31,609 --> 00:37:29,160 cause some very similar kinds of planets 978 00:37:33,290 --> 00:37:31,619 to form so the notion here is even if 979 00:37:35,630 --> 00:37:33,300 you had different planets and different 980 00:37:38,270 --> 00:37:35,640 parts of the Galaxy if there are enough 981 00:37:39,710 --> 00:37:38,280 common shaping elements in those 982 00:37:43,609 --> 00:37:39,720 environments that you would end up with 983 00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:43,619 fewer and fewer idealize her optimized 984 00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:46,800 forms to emerge from that sort of 985 00:37:50,750 --> 00:37:49,200 evolutionary trajectory so in other 986 00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,760 words what you would end up with is 987 00:37:53,390 --> 00:37:52,320 especially at the higher ends of the 988 00:37:55,069 --> 00:37:53,400 food chain 989 00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:55,079 beings that looked very very similar 990 00:37:58,849 --> 00:37:56,880 even if they're from originally very 991 00:38:00,829 --> 00:37:58,859 different contexts so this is the notion 992 00:38:02,690 --> 00:38:00,839 of convergent evolution that they're 993 00:38:05,210 --> 00:38:02,700 converging towards the same kind of form 994 00:38:06,650 --> 00:38:05,220 because of similar pressures even if 995 00:38:08,030 --> 00:38:06,660 they come from originally different 996 00:38:11,150 --> 00:38:08,040 environments 997 00:38:13,490 --> 00:38:11,160 so that's another possibility as well 998 00:38:15,230 --> 00:38:13,500 we would also be remiss to not at least 999 00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:15,240 consider the fact that these forms 1000 00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:17,700 aren't their true forms in fact even 1001 00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:19,920 some of the experiencers who encounter 1002 00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:22,920 these Graves these Zetas will sometimes 1003 00:38:28,190 --> 00:38:24,960 learn that this is just a kind of suit 1004 00:38:30,410 --> 00:38:28,200 or form they took on that allows them to 1005 00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:30,420 navigate in our kind of dense 3D plus 1006 00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:33,540 one structure of reality this construct 1007 00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:36,000 and also sometimes people are told they 1008 00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:37,920 take on this form to make it easier on 1009 00:38:42,650 --> 00:38:40,560 us that they look like us but different 1010 00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,660 enough that it's shocking without being 1011 00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:44,400 completely overwhelming although some 1012 00:38:48,050 --> 00:38:46,560 might disagree with that but this is 1013 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:48,060 part of the notion too that they take 1014 00:38:53,089 --> 00:38:50,880 this form on for our sake so that we can 1015 00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:53,099 see something physical even though some 1016 00:38:57,050 --> 00:38:54,000 of them 1017 00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:57,060 our post biological or even post form 1018 00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,040 they basically are immaterial at this 1019 00:39:03,650 --> 00:39:01,680 point light forms basically but they 1020 00:39:05,690 --> 00:39:03,660 take on this form for our sake so they 1021 00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:05,700 can communicate with us 1022 00:39:09,710 --> 00:39:07,680 now there's one other possibility that 1023 00:39:12,290 --> 00:39:09,720 would explain this common humanoid form 1024 00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:12,300 that I would like to make you aware of I 1025 00:39:15,650 --> 00:39:13,740 actually think it's the most compelling 1026 00:39:16,970 --> 00:39:15,660 argument based on the evidence I've seen 1027 00:39:19,250 --> 00:39:16,980 and based on the material I've come 1028 00:39:21,470 --> 00:39:19,260 across and what I've studied and my 1029 00:39:22,849 --> 00:39:21,480 understanding of reality I think this is 1030 00:39:24,650 --> 00:39:22,859 the best fit 1031 00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:24,660 and this is also covered in the raw 1032 00:39:27,890 --> 00:39:26,040 material you've probably heard me 1033 00:39:29,630 --> 00:39:27,900 mention this more and more again I've 1034 00:39:30,890 --> 00:39:29,640 said elsewhere that I think that's the 1035 00:39:33,410 --> 00:39:30,900 best channeled material we've ever 1036 00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:33,420 received I think that it's good not just 1037 00:39:37,370 --> 00:39:35,220 because I believe the people who channel 1038 00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:37,380 the material but also because it lines 1039 00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:39,720 up so well with other non-dual sources 1040 00:39:44,210 --> 00:39:41,940 the deepest spiritual traditions of our 1041 00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:44,220 history as well so I'm not putting all 1042 00:39:47,870 --> 00:39:45,839 my eggs in that basket because I just 1043 00:39:49,970 --> 00:39:47,880 happen to believe that people that say 1044 00:39:52,849 --> 00:39:49,980 they channeled this extraterrestrial 1045 00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,859 slash interdimensional Source because I 1046 00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:54,000 like them and I think they're 1047 00:39:58,490 --> 00:39:56,220 trustworthy but also because the 1048 00:40:01,250 --> 00:39:58,500 material itself just seems very 1049 00:40:02,930 --> 00:40:01,260 self-evident to me I think it speaks to 1050 00:40:04,670 --> 00:40:02,940 truths that actually exist it 1051 00:40:07,130 --> 00:40:04,680 corresponds to reality as I understand 1052 00:40:09,950 --> 00:40:07,140 it so in other words the metaphysical 1053 00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:09,960 architecture lines up with mine not just 1054 00:40:14,690 --> 00:40:12,000 based on my own studies and my own 1055 00:40:17,329 --> 00:40:14,700 history my own journeying but also based 1056 00:40:19,550 --> 00:40:17,339 on experiences I've had with other kinds 1057 00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:19,560 of intelligences lines up very very much 1058 00:40:24,530 --> 00:40:22,079 with this and as I've said on other 1059 00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:24,540 podcasts I came across this raw material 1060 00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:27,060 after I'd had my experiences my 1061 00:40:31,550 --> 00:40:29,280 experiences with this contact with 1062 00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,560 another kind of intelligence and I was 1063 00:40:34,970 --> 00:40:33,839 amazed by how much it lined up and I had 1064 00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:34,980 one of these sort of brightness 1065 00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:36,839 experiences is what I call them 1066 00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:38,760 something that kind of makes it clear to 1067 00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:40,320 me I need to look in a certain direction 1068 00:40:43,790 --> 00:40:41,820 I get these kind of indications 1069 00:40:45,890 --> 00:40:43,800 sometimes and that's what happened when 1070 00:40:47,930 --> 00:40:45,900 I came across this raw material I had 1071 00:40:49,550 --> 00:40:47,940 this kind of brightness effect that is 1072 00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:49,560 hard to describe it's kind of extra 1073 00:40:52,970 --> 00:40:51,839 sensory but it just says to me you need 1074 00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:52,980 to look in this direction there's 1075 00:40:57,290 --> 00:40:55,020 something here for you so when I started 1076 00:40:58,490 --> 00:40:57,300 reading the raw material I was amazed by 1077 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,500 how much it lined up with the 1078 00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,720 revelations I'd experienced and 1079 00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:03,119 teachings I've come across over time so 1080 00:41:07,490 --> 00:41:04,800 in some ways it is kind of the 1081 00:41:09,890 --> 00:41:07,500 amalgamation or the summit of all the 1082 00:41:11,450 --> 00:41:09,900 things I've ever learned and that's one 1083 00:41:13,849 --> 00:41:11,460 of the things about this phenomenon is 1084 00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:13,859 sometimes as time goes on you feel like 1085 00:41:19,069 --> 00:41:16,560 it re-contextualizes your entire history 1086 00:41:21,170 --> 00:41:19,079 that's been my case where suddenly not 1087 00:41:23,569 --> 00:41:21,180 just this year and the previous years in 1088 00:41:26,270 --> 00:41:23,579 the previous decade but all the Decades 1089 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:26,280 of my life somehow take on a new meaning 1090 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:28,800 and a new kind of transcendence and a 1091 00:41:33,290 --> 00:41:31,040 new trajectory based on this 1092 00:41:35,390 --> 00:41:33,300 recontextualization that's all come 1093 00:41:37,970 --> 00:41:35,400 about fairly recently through these 1094 00:41:39,290 --> 00:41:37,980 revelatory kind of experiences so that's 1095 00:41:40,910 --> 00:41:39,300 another reason why I think the raw 1096 00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:40,920 material is just really really good and 1097 00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,720 I trust it 1098 00:41:47,390 --> 00:41:45,119 but that said the raw material speaks to 1099 00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:47,400 this notion that in different parts of 1100 00:41:51,410 --> 00:41:48,960 the cosmos you kind of have this 1101 00:41:53,089 --> 00:41:51,420 metaphysical seating that happens so the 1102 00:41:55,609 --> 00:41:53,099 cosmic seating part we talked about 1103 00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:55,619 before but it's not just a biological 1104 00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:58,800 thing it's actually a spiritual focus a 1105 00:42:02,810 --> 00:42:01,200 Consciousness Focus which also has a 1106 00:42:05,329 --> 00:42:02,820 physical element to it or at least the 1107 00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:05,339 illusory nature of kind of the physical 1108 00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:07,440 so we have kind of that non-dual kind of 1109 00:42:11,810 --> 00:42:08,520 thinking here 1110 00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:11,820 but the idea is that a sub logoic kind 1111 00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:15,060 of entity or intelligence seeds a part 1112 00:42:20,930 --> 00:42:18,240 of the Galaxy with certain kind of forms 1113 00:42:23,810 --> 00:42:20,940 Common forms and that these become part 1114 00:42:25,130 --> 00:42:23,820 of the archetypal unconscious even of a 1115 00:42:26,690 --> 00:42:25,140 species so when you look at our 1116 00:42:28,730 --> 00:42:26,700 unconscious and our Collective 1117 00:42:30,829 --> 00:42:28,740 unconscious that Carl Jung spoke a lot 1118 00:42:33,650 --> 00:42:30,839 about which you have is these kind of 1119 00:42:36,349 --> 00:42:33,660 archetypal forms they're basically like 1120 00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:36,359 templates these pre-made forms that are 1121 00:42:40,970 --> 00:42:38,400 populated in certain parts of the cosmos 1122 00:42:43,970 --> 00:42:40,980 that are then injected with kind of 1123 00:42:46,849 --> 00:42:43,980 Vitality that is the entire Cosmos the 1124 00:42:48,290 --> 00:42:46,859 entire creation kind of emerges and 1125 00:42:51,410 --> 00:42:48,300 evolves to these kind of different 1126 00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:51,420 dimensional layers that these templates 1127 00:42:56,210 --> 00:42:54,060 are then filled with energetic resonance 1128 00:42:58,430 --> 00:42:56,220 and become what look like physical 1129 00:43:00,050 --> 00:42:58,440 beings and so basically that would 1130 00:43:02,809 --> 00:43:00,060 explain why you get something like a 1131 00:43:04,670 --> 00:43:02,819 gray alien and a reptilian and a mantis 1132 00:43:06,770 --> 00:43:04,680 being why do we have mantis beings look 1133 00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:06,780 so much like these insects from our 1134 00:43:11,450 --> 00:43:08,480 planet because again there's these 1135 00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:11,460 seating templates or these archetypes 1136 00:43:17,410 --> 00:43:14,640 these starting forms that seated into 1137 00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:17,420 the very evolutionary and 1138 00:43:22,190 --> 00:43:19,680 multi-dimensional development of a 1139 00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:22,200 certain part of the creation that's 1140 00:43:25,970 --> 00:43:24,480 basically what we see happening here so 1141 00:43:28,250 --> 00:43:25,980 in this sense I think this would explain 1142 00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,260 well why we have these different kinds 1143 00:43:32,270 --> 00:43:30,480 of entities different beings who I 1144 00:43:34,849 --> 00:43:32,280 really do think are from different parts 1145 00:43:37,609 --> 00:43:34,859 of our physical universe that actually 1146 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,619 share this common seating but again the 1147 00:43:42,170 --> 00:43:39,359 key here is to recognize this is a 1148 00:43:44,270 --> 00:43:42,180 metaphysical kind of endeavor that the 1149 00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:44,280 physical element the physical Universe 1150 00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:47,040 element that we see is again just a 1151 00:43:51,230 --> 00:43:48,960 construct just a derivative of some 1152 00:43:53,089 --> 00:43:51,240 deeper structure I've been talking about 1153 00:43:56,030 --> 00:43:53,099 this a lot that even physicists like 1154 00:43:58,730 --> 00:43:56,040 Nima arkani Hamed these days recognize 1155 00:44:00,890 --> 00:43:58,740 that space-time is not a thing he says 1156 00:44:03,230 --> 00:44:00,900 it's doomed because he recognizes as a 1157 00:44:05,690 --> 00:44:03,240 model it's just not tenable it can't 1158 00:44:07,730 --> 00:44:05,700 make sense of what we know about what we 1159 00:44:09,650 --> 00:44:07,740 see around us there must be some deeper 1160 00:44:12,109 --> 00:44:09,660 structure to reality body from which you 1161 00:44:14,690 --> 00:44:12,119 get the derivatives of quantum theory 1162 00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:14,700 and space time and I'm saying this lines 1163 00:44:18,410 --> 00:44:16,079 up with the raw material and the 1164 00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,420 revelations I've had that underlyingly 1165 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,400 you have this metaphysical kind of 1166 00:44:25,609 --> 00:44:22,800 architecture which has a derivative of 1167 00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:25,619 what looks like the physical universe 1168 00:44:30,109 --> 00:44:27,599 all that is to say in terms of what we 1169 00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:30,119 talked about today I actually think both 1170 00:44:36,109 --> 00:44:32,940 are in play extraterrestrial or slash 1171 00:44:38,690 --> 00:44:36,119 interdimensional and extra tempestril 1172 00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:38,700 future humans I think both are in play 1173 00:44:44,089 --> 00:44:42,180 and the common humanoid form is because 1174 00:44:46,730 --> 00:44:44,099 of this underlying metaphysical 1175 00:44:49,309 --> 00:44:46,740 architecture either way but I actually 1176 00:44:51,770 --> 00:44:49,319 think the best interpretation of the 1177 00:44:54,770 --> 00:44:51,780 available evidence is that both exist 1178 00:44:57,170 --> 00:44:54,780 both are here extraterrestrial slash 1179 00:45:00,770 --> 00:44:57,180 interdimensional as well as extra 1180 00:45:03,410 --> 00:45:00,780 tempestules but again the common seeding 1181 00:45:08,329 --> 00:45:03,420 form this templating this archetypal 1182 00:45:10,910 --> 00:45:08,339 origin is what's key to all of it 1183 00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:10,920 and on that note we've come to the close 1184 00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:13,260 of another edition of the point of 1185 00:45:17,870 --> 00:45:15,839 convergence podcast if you'd like to 1186 00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:17,880 support this podcast you can do so by 1187 00:45:23,089 --> 00:45:20,240 going to patreon.com 1188 00:45:25,069 --> 00:45:23,099 exoacademian and I do have future bonus 1189 00:45:28,130 --> 00:45:25,079 episodes coming in just a couple weeks 1190 00:45:30,290 --> 00:45:28,140 specifically for patrons 1191 00:45:32,329 --> 00:45:30,300 but until next time friends from deep 1192 00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:32,339 within the Blue Ridge Mountains of North